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I wonder if you could tell some of our listeners about what the gentleman said around the table

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here is in detail about what the nightcap is.

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The nightcap is a non-profit private organization which is designed to price and evaluate most

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of the values of public intervention on non-identified foreign politics and foreign studies.

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It's a membership in 37 states, 14 foreign countries, and I would say it includes some of the things

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that we've seen so far, like Admin, I tell him, he used to be a CEO, such as the company,

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he had no money, he had no money for many times, but the point is he used to be the number one

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investigator in the process, or someone from Iran, and then he knew that he was trying to

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find a way to get into the business, so it's kind of an experience in which we evaluate

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studies of other developers, and when we try to cover these publicates, we might be able to

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build them, and our aim is to try to get the subjects out and open, and we get kind of

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to help open buildings that are always to the level of difficulty.

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You will certainly know if you want the subject to be brought to an open.

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What do you think should be brought out there?

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Is there something that we don't know is significant in the very good deal?

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So in both states, college, and all universities, and that's all that's going on in universities,

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are never through basic rules in regards to studies, so it's a tough and denial,

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but I have been telling me here, it's not just official, all of this is done in 146.

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I'm going to start back a little bit, and AFR 200 is the most worth order, which says

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it's no longer an except and unexplained study.

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So what do we listen to the press?

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People are all right, of course.

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What is the opinion about this?

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What is the reason that's done?

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What kind of silence they see?

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Well, for a long time, we thought it was going to be an extraordinary study, while behind

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this, and they're very seriously investigating, and trying to get all answers.

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And also trying to find the secret of the question, so we can get the truth.

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I agree in the last phase that they're lying to the American military on purpose,

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and they're lying to themselves.

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And then you suggest this case to the secret public, to the American people like children,

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and they're going to go on to talk about the age problem, and everybody will say,

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this is something that's missing in the media, Bob.

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I wouldn't go this way, but it seems to be going on as a mess.

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Don't go that way, Tom, or Mr. Sincere in the same category.

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Right now, 36% of the country could be wiped out by Mr. Sincere.

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All right, we pushed it for a long time.

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You think that the Sincere is in danger, so I'm going to pass the bill,

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and it's passed by people who knew it.

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I'm not a quirk.

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I'm not a quirk because the modern state, by 10 years in the real world,

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two of those are plenty of times that they're wanted to attack it.

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That's a very, very long-witted wound preparation.

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I think they have a few accidents with some people who knew it in the fiscal period.

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But I think we're nearly on the observation, and it's taken a long time

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because we're probably having difficulties understanding what the asylum is to do.

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We're not only going to communicate, but what climate and new things are being said.

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You're not going to be telling me something.

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I love you, Mr. Farmer, sir.

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I love you, Mr. Farmer.

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I love you, Mr. Farmer, because even now you're part of the Winscourt,

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the kind of living book I love most,

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because a lot of people don't know what you are doing, but we're not becoming honest with you.

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And it helps to make the public a little more serious.

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It's a very silly word, a very important thought.

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You can say it's a question of something. You can call it this, it's a little drug.

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Well, I don't know if I like it.

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But people are also fucking good method in finding something suitable for that moment.

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Well, that's called me a good one.

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But first, let's take a little business.

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I mean, I thought you'd like to get in at about this time.

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I know that you've worked for a long while.

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I had an opportunity to work with you here.

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We've had a colleague at Nome here.

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So we'd be very happy to see you in a few minutes.

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All right, I understand that there's a call that's coming from the Winscourt.

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And we hope that it may be something that we will be able to see our listeners.

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Because we have something that we hope that we may have.

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I think it will be a good experience to all of them soon.

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Maybe too hard.

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Just as we were talking about when you were a long distance car.

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I was just wondering, is that a personal car or was it something that made me a business to all of you?

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I think it was almost anyone who really couldn't find a place to sit.

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This came from Captain Joe Hall of Capital Airlines.

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Captain Hall is a veteran.

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He's been driving for 16 years.

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Sixteen thousand hours most of them at the conclusion they're on it.

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Now this is not a personal driving of yours, but it's one from a tenant in the United States,

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and we've checked on it and that's it for many reasons.

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It's about a Captain Hall himself at a starting location for the San Mexico, a very strange one.

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So you find New York to New York.

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And this place is also a place where you find New York and this local palace.

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because you have to be a customer of the place and you have to be a customer of the place.

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On the Sunday of August 1955, he and another lady palace,

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and Brian's family, Jeff and Bill, and other ladies, and Jeff and Bill's brother.

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It's a clear night and they're never seen them in the sky.

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They go up the flight directly out of the way to the ocean, and they'll be back through that old palace.

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They flew several miles on this boat and they suddenly descended in front of him.

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and they're going to look at it in a very nice suit.

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and they put just this famous New Yorker, that I've never checked in,

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but they couldn't get a lock on.

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because this time they've got a curtain with things that they could use.

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And they're going to explore it, because a number of things are also going to come up to a very high altitude.

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In fact, the altitude there was a chase there from 6,000 to 30,000 feet.

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And the speed there from about a small to this big, a regular, might be the gear up to a very high summit.

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That's roughly over 700 miles an hour, and we'll see whether.

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But during this chase, they were constantly receiving reports from the tower.

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and the New Yorker, all of them were down the middle of them.

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so they had this blitz of any kind from over 100 grand witnesses.

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We found out that there was another pilot involved.

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and with the pilot scouring, the days were absolutely ridiculous,

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because they were very low and high speeds, and this thing was just making monkey's eye a-ha.

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No mass was dramatic, and some of the planning could have been published.

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and when I'm investigating, what are some better online tests,

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I think it's certainly going to be important.

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This is the limit to what we can do.

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Maybe if you had a little bit of some of the questions you asked,

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and I know that I have dozens of them, and I think an odd, honest child could give you a little chance,

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but a couple of minutes anyway.

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One of the questions that's interesting to me, maybe, is I'm losing a mention several times

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that there is, to your mind, at least the mind of my camp,

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a good possibility that we are using that tomorrow as a base of operation for unburdened earth.

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was that the incidence of fighting had increased every time Mars was near bottom

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over the past ten years, that's right.

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and if planet Earth, and if it's put some ship, which, but it must be people,

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put it in science degree, and things and so forth,

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one in which they even bother with a little thing like the existence of cross-pattern.

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or I would be able to talk some methods,

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and see the speculation that we're going to show in the next series.

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The first time that the Galician's made a decision to put in the course of the second time,

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was in the middle of the year in 1662, that's when the Canadian government

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progress decided that time that they would make it official,

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that they were going to make it official, be it until last.

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and just small, which is very rare area operating on the Earth,

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and not even operating in the Moon.

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and I would say that I would be able to explain the opposition of Mars on last,

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and it will be typically much more possible.

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I'm going to share these things, but the specials that you are all absolutely believe,

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let's get that I, you folks arriving here in this planet,

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at least hovering over this planet, but becoming here from other planets in Mars,

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we're going to say how many, if you're going to be the entire Earth,

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I don't think we need to shoot you on record to tell us what's going on.

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It's very good.

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There is a possibility that we can make it official,

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and I know that the time when I was working with it,

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was the 1st of December, 2015,

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there was a road that the public would believe that,

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not only the people, but the public should know about it.

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but it's the same thing that brings the Mars,

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and it's the most important one, which the 1948 top secret post of it.

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in the night, because we were on the spot with our thoughts,

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we got on the microwave that night,

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that was when the Mars was made.

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what happened was that I was trying to say that the Earth was having problems,

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I tried to say that on the first time,

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so that January 20th, 2015,

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the Earth was represented,

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it was according to Mr. O's community, the rightful owner,

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so he told me that that was actually because I was a little bit

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a little bit more of an idiot than I was,

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and even if it meant denouncing the force,

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the force not made, but kept me,

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and this report was followed by the people.

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in which it was told by the 30 years he was,

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which I checked on that,

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which was the same as the first time in 1955,

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they did not like that statement made,

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and I'm not really sure,

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and the people didn't want to say this,

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they were forced to not want it made,

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and I mean, I'm not even sure,

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no, we were able to put this out of the hold,

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they were called by the public,

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but they didn't have a choice,

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they didn't have a choice,

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they didn't put it in any way,

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they didn't put it in any way,

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so we got it.

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it turned out to be a question about that for a long time,

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I had not come to this,

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they were asked specifically about it,

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and one of the 11 questions,

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maybe Joe's real story,

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maybe it was about, maybe it was really about,

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he's going to answer,

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and he's been speaking about it,

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nobody has ever seen the report about it until tonight.

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I had told them,

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but I heard this,

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I've told people,

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and then they got to go on too,

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I'd put you to sleep,

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and you should be smart,

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well, now,

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I know everybody can identify that,

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I've probably been also scripted,

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because it's the same type of,

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I've got all those scripts,

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and when you read that part of the script,

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you're to my,

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I'd like to hear that.

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Now, you're getting that ready,

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so I'm just going to take a moment to talk about

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one of our sponsors,

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and then we'll be back with maybe two words.

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I would like to have you give me,

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and we'll see if you will please,

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on two questions.

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why didn't you talk up there on that program,

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according to two of you guys who were listening?

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it's me that at first accepted the invitation,

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according to Mr. Tullick,

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the answer in the letter,

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he was quite busy at the party,

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and later in the interview,

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I think it's going to be all very helpful,

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because we've heard it,

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and that he's just going to spend a time.

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That may be the right answer,

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if it's possible.

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So, if he's with a North-West company,

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we've got very good service,

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maybe with Mr. Tullick.

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Well, not,

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but from Dittick,

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we've heard him on,

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and I've got a ticket to him sometime before,

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so I feel that it's a quick answer.

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Now, the next question is,

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Ken O'Hannell was in town,

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and he was at the Hexos,

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I think for two days,

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and he received his to appear on the program,

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and it was his opinion,

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and I have the telegram and phoneable copy of it,

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he says in his telegram,

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I will not be a participant on any program,

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but obviously,

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misrepresent and distort the facts

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available on any subject broadcast

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for the public interest.

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Now, would I allow any photographs

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or material property copyrighted

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to be used on any program

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without written permission of the owner?

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Would you allow Mr. O'Hannell

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to correct the next statement?

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Well, I spoke to O'Hannell quite a bit,

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so I could tell you,

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at the end of the first day,

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when he wasn't happy about it,

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and the person will throw it out,

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and soon they'll throw this

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in the second half of the whole show.

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And I thought,

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I thought the better things stay on,

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because it would be fun,

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you know, very good in the effort,

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and he thought that it would be a real program,

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or it might not be a real program,

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it might be very fun.

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And he would write to first-person fans

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and make sure that there was not enough time for it.

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I didn't support his hearing

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his discussions with the United States and Shabu-Shabu,

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but I knew that he would,

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because there was really no one happy about it,

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and he said to himself,

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I don't know about

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the first half of the meeting,

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of course some of us have their needs with section.

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And not before the wind gets, baby,

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he said, I wonder if this is really your opinion,

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but for the reason,

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why would those even produce

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their own speakers with particular show?

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If they were going to run into so many problems,

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and certainly the rare part

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must have been found that Robert Cestalo

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and Ed Sheeran expressed that

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they were not going to agree with you,

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and they were not going to let you just make

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any statement that you thought would be right to do it.

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Well, I can give you three three angles on that,

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and I will give you many a few in these levels.

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The longer back to the first,

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they thought really that I was the first one to be a first.

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I knew that it was better.

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I'm not at all interested in the end of the interview,

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but I'm a photographer,

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and I asked whether my staff

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would cooperate with the program,

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and we were both.

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I said yes, we'd be glad to,

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as long as we would have been

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in the room as far as the same person.

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Mr. Bowling's a great media director,

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and I was invited,

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and I went into my room,

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thinking at the time that it was an internal discussion,

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I said, be sure to get there for him.

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He said, hey, there were other ways of doing it.

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I could go tell him that

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if they don't put some of that on,

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we can put them out somewhere there,

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and we'll put Mr. Cestalo in process

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to film this guy when he's going to run out.

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They were not that good, and I don't know.

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Anyway, we tried to buy some of the air force,

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but now we've just got to go and start.

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We're doing this for a proper reason.

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The first thing I know is a stick game,

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and I'm showing you this in all of Part 2,

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and I have five minutes of Part 2,

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and we've got three minutes,

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and let's go to the air force,

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and the rest of it,

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and smell a balance of everything.

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Smoking through the war and time.

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I checked about it, and Mr. Bowling,

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you should have asked for this,

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but at least we're fine with the parts,

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which should have been part of it.

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It's just a show.

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If they didn't run in the rain,

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it's not all that good with the air force.

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We're making it mad that we're being tired

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of the air force.

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It's not the fact that

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there was a risk of breaking through things,

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there was no, from that's just viewpoint,

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no point.

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There was really no outside,

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no balance.

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I do say that it's just a very safe picture.

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But it is not, not just story.

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I think that Bowling is pretty innocent

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when it's just a tent.

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When we first got back,

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and I got here as a parent,

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and they seemed to have never known

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that this was going on,

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and just thought about it,

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and I love it.

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Is this including the time that you were talking,

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that that's the answer?

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I don't know.

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I wasn't talking exactly,

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it was just a very good.

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So,

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Bowling,

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as some of you before,

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for sure,

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I was talking to some of our Bowling revenues,

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and I said,

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you know, like a script,

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and I was just,

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and I was going to say,

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what's going on with Bowling?

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I said,

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we're going to be so document.

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And I'm going to say,

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we're back,

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we should be working,

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and everything.

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And you know,

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I have a story that's good,

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but we're not going to show,

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it's going to be any personalities.

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And also,

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I should not mention the audience,

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it's like a part,

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that I can did mention in this,

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but I didn't mention it.

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I'm just,

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I'm just not,

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I look like I was,

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I'm sorry,

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but I was so,

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I couldn't mention one on my show,

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and I'm going to say,

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too.

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Now,

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I'm going to open mine.

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Well, we're going to start,

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anyway,

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this is going to be the best we can,

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but then I'm going to say,

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I'm going to change,

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so I can fit the new script,

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that's nice.

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And the way I'm going to play,

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is in type, right?

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I wrote it off,

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and you know,

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it's going to be very, very good.

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And I was going to say,

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we're going to write that off,

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and then the next day,

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is the end of this,

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and this is going to,

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this is going to,

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about this great afternoon.

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At that time,

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I'm sure it's going to win,

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so I just went,

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along after the long,

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I was reading through my paper,

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and I immediately read the last,

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and then I read the score,

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so if you want to see,

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I read the statement now,

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you know,

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I want to make it,

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yes.

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I'm going to read this statement,

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which crossed out,

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I'm going to read these,

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these,

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this afternoon part of that segment,

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but you can read here,

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yeah,

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most people don't know,

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we saw this kind of part,

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they may be some who missed it,

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and I saw this,

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when we were reading the part,

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the part with my score,

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I make sure you get it right.

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I don't have a 15 page,

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but I can remember,

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but I just asked you,

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what was the most important,

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why did you think of,

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what was the true love for yourself,

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and the love for yourself,

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and I'm sure they're not,

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what you think they're doing,

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but I said,

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they should be treating this one,

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I mean,

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I'm honest with you,

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I'm looking for the opinion,

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among all of us,

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that there is an official policy,

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believes in the best interest of the people,

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not the concern with the system,

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but there are answers I know,

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and then this is supposed to follow.

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That's an everyday report,

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the only chief of party Google,

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has confirmed the existence of

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four important airport documents,

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which should be noted.

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The most important thing,

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is that the best of us,

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the most ACI senior,

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of the rest of the New Jersey,

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continues to be up there,

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for every five days of the day,

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in 1952,

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a most important public analysis,

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of UFOs in the US,

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starts to turn to humans,

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in the time frame.

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In 1952,

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a report by a panel,

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of top scientists,

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of the Pentagon,

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reached this conclusion,

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there is five different special evidence,

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that may come in two,

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but to me,

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of those in the space.

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They're recommended with,

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simplifying the investigation,

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and showing the most important,

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for all of us.

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Now that is the type of cut out,

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that only three documents,

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mentioned.

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Just before,

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I was there in the space,

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two of someone,

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had cut out a 1947,

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that was the state,

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that he said,

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that he didn't do real,

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whatever it was.

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Now,

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we're not working with them,

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the caliphant,

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it was none of the caliphant,

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because the two of them,

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were just,

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00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:53,000
were just,

517
00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:54,000
I think it was in the,

518
00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:55,000
the second day,

519
00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:56,000
we were working with the caliphant.

520
00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:57,000
But this never was,

521
00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:59,000
none of the caliphant.

522
00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:00,000
And that's,

523
00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:01,000
at that time,

524
00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:02,000
I was there for the,

525
00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:03,000
we were,

526
00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:04,000
we were allowed to be cut out,

527
00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:05,000
I was not going on the air.

528
00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,000
It wasn't a story about that, right?

529
00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:08,000
It was,

530
00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:09,000
a medical,

531
00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:10,000
the actual,

532
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:11,000
it was,

533
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:12,000
I don't know,

534
00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:13,000
I mean,

535
00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:14,000
I was like,

536
00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:15,000
it's a,

537
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:16,000
we were supposed to be mad,

538
00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:17,000
and that's when,

539
00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:18,000
we got to use all the wire,

540
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,000
to bring up on that,

541
00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:21,000
I would have,

542
00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:22,000
to produce the mother of it,

543
00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:23,000
that I had.

544
00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:24,000
But,

545
00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:25,000
to avoid this,

546
00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:26,000
I would say,

547
00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:27,000
we had the animation,

548
00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:28,000
we were supposed to,

549
00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:29,000
we'd created it.

550
00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:30,000
We were supposed to,

551
00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:31,000
this was very,

552
00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:32,000
very,

553
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:33,000
very close.

554
00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:34,000
One point,

555
00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:35,000
to me,

556
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:36,000
just to be honest.

557
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,000
I sent out telepag,

558
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:39,000
and,

559
00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:40,000
I imagine,

560
00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:41,000
that you were allowed,

561
00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:42,000
about 5 minutes

562
00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,000
after the air force represented.

563
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:45,000
Recording,

564
00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:46,000
to my opinion,

565
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:47,000
about 5 minutes,

566
00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:48,000
that you talked.

567
00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:49,000
Now,

568
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:50,000
I was only impressed,

569
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:51,000
in the human reading,

570
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:52,000
from a caliphant,

571
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:53,000
very subtle,

572
00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:54,000
but statement that you knew,

573
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:55,000
but it was possibly confirmed,

574
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:56,000
with distance,

575
00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:57,000
to the UFOs.

576
00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:58,200
I do, that's what.

577
00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:01,400
In other words, all the more I want to talk about, yeah, yeah.

578
00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:06,120
Now, what happens when you turn to that final 20 seconds

579
00:23:06,120 --> 00:23:09,600
when the calipan's there once more?

580
00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:10,920
What is that going to do?

581
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:15,320
I have a very small bone that's in use of coliculitis.

582
00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:18,120
At the fact that they're over two months' time,

583
00:23:18,120 --> 00:23:20,360
and the both of them cut out of the script,

584
00:23:20,360 --> 00:23:23,240
and they're going to regret the purpose of giving an O-50.

585
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:27,000
So I mentioned to one of the young fellow's who's done this,

586
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,880
that you can work in a separate testimony

587
00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:32,920
on universal efficiency for about six months.

588
00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:34,360
And they had a lot of evidence,

589
00:23:34,360 --> 00:23:38,600
and that's over-contrary of the bone we asked for the same.

590
00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:40,520
And I said, well, I put that in there,

591
00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:42,120
and I was like, oh, good, and you should say,

592
00:23:42,120 --> 00:23:44,040
you should probably be sure of it.

593
00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,600
But I understood later, because you have no authority

594
00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:49,880
to O-50, and what I should have done

595
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,440
is just to file over the duty.

596
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:54,040
Until I'd made up my mind,

597
00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:56,600
the only way I would get the O-50 point

598
00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,080
that I would step in and file a script on my mind

599
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,800
and living with the best of some of the committee.

600
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:03,560
As soon as I got to the best of the committee,

601
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,360
they cut off the O-50 on my mind.

602
00:24:06,360 --> 00:24:08,040
It came over as, thank you, Edwin,

603
00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:09,880
something to live with, don't you think?

604
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:10,880
Yeah, I had it on tape.

605
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:11,720
Yes.

606
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:13,240
But that was not, I was sorry to say,

607
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:14,400
I was not going to mention it,

608
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:15,240
it was very expensive,

609
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,080
it was really because I thought it was massive.

610
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,240
But I thought that you were kind of counting the massive,

611
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:20,840
things that were deleted there

612
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:22,760
and the stuff that we had before.

613
00:24:24,120 --> 00:24:27,960
Mr. Sears, I think you mentioned I'm not telecast,

614
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,200
and the first we'd like to have the other information

615
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:31,880
that you are not familiar to,

616
00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:34,600
leave or mention over the,

617
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:36,120
I'm saying, well,

618
00:24:36,120 --> 00:24:37,960
so-and-so, that's the case there, Edwin.

619
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,880
But I think you mentioned something about a Senate committee.

620
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,400
Yeah, we knew this thing through the McClellan Committee,

621
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,360
so I believe McClellan was subcommittee,

622
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,480
and the Senate committee on the government authority.

623
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,360
That's the committee, it's not a committee, yes.

624
00:24:54,360 --> 00:24:58,040
I had not given that name out before,

625
00:24:58,040 --> 00:24:59,400
because at one time I said,

626
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,200
don't, it's not a responsible name,

627
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:03,640
but after that,

628
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:05,640
so-and-so, there was somebody dressed it,

629
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:07,960
and a full-parking officer about to get called,

630
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:09,480
and he got the information to name it,

631
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:10,680
so he sort of went in here,

632
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:12,120
and he didn't get the information then.

633
00:25:12,120 --> 00:25:14,360
And we also had a notice,

634
00:25:14,360 --> 00:25:15,240
I looked at it, yes,

635
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:16,840
he's not allowed to speak,

636
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,080
and he spoke to the McClellan Committee.

637
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:22,040
Well, no, he wouldn't want the graph file, I think,

638
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:23,480
so thanks for the word,

639
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:24,840
so that he could make it on time.

640
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:27,240
I had told him, I said,

641
00:25:28,120 --> 00:25:29,640
about the committee without name in it,

642
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:30,760
and then they would just again,

643
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:32,680
and he called the figures,

644
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:34,520
and they'd be a preliminary test

645
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:36,120
that they would be called until the day.

646
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,600
All that, that was, of course,

647
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,400
the thing that I tried to say when I was shot off.

648
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,040
But it's very, yes, about the file,

649
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:47,080
I think.

650
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:50,680
I had two things I was very impressed on there,

651
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:52,840
in which I said that I asked anyone

652
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,080
who had information on UFOs,

653
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:56,120
and it was controlling it,

654
00:25:56,120 --> 00:25:57,640
that was big, four or five times.

655
00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:00,680
From the mingledoc, he would open it,

656
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:01,400
and talk about it,

657
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:04,120
and if I were to,

658
00:26:04,120 --> 00:26:05,400
and we'd go to the police,

659
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:06,360
and we were very impressed,

660
00:26:06,360 --> 00:26:07,160
and I was thinking,

661
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:07,480
I was thinking,

662
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,160
she's been so kind to mention here.

663
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:10,920
A few hours later,

664
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:12,040
I started blooming this,

665
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:13,400
because it should have been

666
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:14,440
the last open mouth,

667
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:16,040
I'm telling you,

668
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:17,800
I knew by then

669
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,120
that I was in disorder somewhere,

670
00:26:20,120 --> 00:26:21,800
but I think,

671
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:23,960
I think it was my choice of memory,

672
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:26,280
and I was with me on camera,

673
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:27,400
yes, I guess at that time,

674
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:28,440
it was good to read it,

675
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,320
but it was a lot like someone said it.

676
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:33,400
I want to,

677
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:34,360
I don't want to know,

678
00:26:34,360 --> 00:26:35,880
but I never found myself,

679
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:36,600
or people get.

680
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:39,800
The, the driver was finished,

681
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:41,320
and the police,

682
00:26:42,120 --> 00:26:43,240
about to get away,

683
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:44,280
when I subscribe,

684
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:45,640
I have a very talented,

685
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:46,840
and a TV program,

686
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:48,360
and a very, very,

687
00:26:48,360 --> 00:26:48,840
very, very,

688
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:49,560
very much worth,

689
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:50,440
and very good,

690
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:50,920
so I,

691
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:51,480
I,

692
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:52,520
I thought to,

693
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:53,240
like a time,

694
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:55,240
I got bitten by,

695
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:55,800
because I thought,

696
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:56,440
I thought,

697
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:57,640
I was so worried about the effects,

698
00:26:58,360 --> 00:26:59,240
and I said to them,

699
00:26:59,240 --> 00:26:59,480
like,

700
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:01,400
well, now I have to talk to them,

701
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:02,120
so you should call,

702
00:27:02,120 --> 00:27:02,840
let them follow,

703
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:04,600
because I thought it was a fact.

704
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:05,000
You know,

705
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:06,360
the statement that people have,

706
00:27:06,360 --> 00:27:07,640
that if I'm in the wrong,

707
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:08,760
they're going to know it may be,

708
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:10,200
also,

709
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:10,760
in traveling,

710
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:11,480
about things,

711
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:11,880
about it,

712
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:12,520
about selling,

713
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:13,320
selling food.

714
00:27:14,120 --> 00:27:15,240
I think it was about,

715
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:15,880
yeah,

716
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:17,080
three o'clock in the morning,

717
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:18,680
it was the following morning,

718
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:19,880
when I talked to Mr. Seumann,

719
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:20,760
Mr. Seumann,

720
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:21,880
he was doing a good job,

721
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:23,640
and he was going to get me on the phone,

722
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:25,560
and I asked his father,

723
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:26,120
he was like,

724
00:27:26,120 --> 00:27:26,840
he was tired,

725
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:27,240
I thought,

726
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:27,640
not really,

727
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:28,680
because I actually remember,

728
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:29,800
people were trying to tell him,

729
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:30,280
ask him,

730
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:31,800
but maybe he would have some manners,

731
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:32,920
but what's he trying to say,

732
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:33,160
he said,

733
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:35,640
so Mr. Seumann sent me a wire,

734
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:38,040
and then I had him on the beach,

735
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:38,600
at the time,

736
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,320
and he told me,

737
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:42,760
that's what happened down there,

738
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:44,040
and he was just being

739
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:46,680
complimented about me,

740
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:47,160
so,

741
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:48,120
and he said,

742
00:27:48,120 --> 00:27:49,400
he was very chocolate,

743
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:50,120
and he said,

744
00:27:50,120 --> 00:27:50,680
he was like,

745
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:52,440
I'm just going to go right on the phone,

746
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:53,240
I remember,

747
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:54,680
I remember this story,

748
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:55,320
this is,

749
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,160
but because I just went to a phone rate,

750
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:58,040
and we did that,

751
00:27:58,040 --> 00:27:59,640
I was just going to have a little bit,

752
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:00,920
to think about the phone to him,

753
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:02,280
and also,

754
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:03,160
I understand that,

755
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:04,360
from the previous year,

756
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:06,920
but then we had to go to a phone,

757
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:07,560
and so,

758
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:08,760
and so that's what he said,

759
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:09,720
I was just going to say,

760
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:10,360
Mr. Seumann,

761
00:28:10,360 --> 00:28:11,640
I remember,

762
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:13,560
I didn't mention anything to Mr. Seumann,

763
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:14,040
before then,

764
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:14,840
because I thought,

765
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:15,720
well, if I do that,

766
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:17,800
you'll notice that I did this for that reason,

767
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:20,040
when I never did that,

768
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:21,080
since I'm a research,

769
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,000
so I took a picture of the car,

770
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:24,040
about the picture,

771
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:25,480
that the workers were going to,

772
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,960
and we were going to learn about the car,

773
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:28,440
and so I was going to say,

774
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:28,520
Mr. Seumann,

775
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:30,600
I'm sure that he said,

776
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:31,640
I think it's a mistake,

777
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:32,360
but I don't know,

778
00:28:32,360 --> 00:28:34,040
it's really because I didn't want to research,

779
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:35,160
the car,

780
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:36,360
and I'm sure he's going to know,

781
00:28:36,360 --> 00:28:38,520
and so he might be going for something,

782
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:38,920
something,

783
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:39,800
something wrong with it,

784
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:41,800
but it is a lie,

785
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:42,840
and the people have said,

786
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:43,400
and I want to,

787
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:43,960
I'm going to tell you,

788
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:45,080
every time you're everybody,

789
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:46,840
about the program,

790
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:48,440
that this program has been

791
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,600
completely filled with society reasons,

792
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,000
that's why it was a responsibility,

793
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:53,960
what's not to do,

794
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:55,560
to show performance in accordance

795
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:56,520
with community things,

796
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:57,560
society standards,

797
00:28:58,120 --> 00:28:58,760
all of that,

798
00:28:58,760 --> 00:28:59,480
and all of that,

799
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:02,440
but the progress is very good,

800
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:04,360
and so absolutely,

801
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,600
our nine months of work time,

802
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:07,640
we couldn't tell you,

803
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:08,280
that's a very,

804
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:09,240
something that's probably

805
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:10,120
the most recent,

806
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:11,480
and it's probably the most

807
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:12,440
recent story about it,

808
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,360
and probably the most recent story about it.

809
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:17,080
So I wasn't so worried,

810
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:18,920
that I might say something,

811
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:20,680
and also I wanted to say,

812
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:21,400
wait,

813
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:22,920
there's an awful sound,

814
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:24,280
and some of the air is a little

815
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:25,560
suspicious, you know,

816
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:26,520
I really, really, really,

817
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:27,720
want to say what's good for me,

818
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:29,880
I can answer the question,

819
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:31,400
I really want to know that,

820
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:33,160
about this year,

821
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:33,480
what,

822
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:34,280
if I would say,

823
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:35,960
what's that about,

824
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:36,600
and I'm not,

825
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:37,240
I'm not,

826
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:38,040
I'm not,

827
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:39,160
it's not going to answer it,

828
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:39,640
oh well,

829
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:40,120
I'll just,

830
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:40,760
I'll just,

831
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:41,960
I'll ask some other elements,

832
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:42,440
but with,

833
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:43,160
in the original,

834
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:43,720
I was just,

835
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:44,440
that's the story,

836
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:44,840
but no,

837
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:46,200
I would appreciate it very much,

838
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:47,160
if you'd like to comment,

839
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:47,880
I'm in the right now,

840
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:48,360
but oh,

841
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:48,840
I'm sorry,

842
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:49,240
I,

843
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:49,480
I,

844
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:49,800
I,

845
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:50,920
I'm not going to be very

846
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:51,480
worried about that,

847
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:51,800
you know,

848
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:52,280
I'm not,

849
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:52,760
I'm not,

850
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:53,240
I'm not going to say,

851
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:54,360
the first request is good,

852
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:55,240
because I said,

853
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:55,720
after,

854
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:56,840
I'm not going to give you an even

855
00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:57,160
part,

856
00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:59,240
but it's going to come about it,

857
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:00,840
I was hoping that they would actually

858
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:01,880
be forced to give me,

859
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:02,840
and we could handle it,

860
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:03,480
and we were able to,

861
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:04,040
just in one,

862
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:04,840
well,

863
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:05,640
I was just,

864
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:06,040
at the time,

865
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:06,920
the civilian office,

866
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:07,320
the,

867
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:07,720
factory,

868
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:08,600
the office building,

869
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:10,440
so I'm not just going to get you to the room,

870
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:11,880
so you can buy a presentation,

871
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:12,120
please,

872
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:13,320
if you're a,

873
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:14,440
I'm not going to allow you to come,

874
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:14,840
but I said,

875
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:15,240
we could just,

876
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:16,280
we could control classes,

877
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:16,600
and the,

878
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:16,920
we could,

879
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:17,720
we could,

880
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:18,280
we could,

881
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:18,840
we could do it.

882
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:20,920
Then I had a note request,

883
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:22,360
I'm going to go check them down,

884
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:22,680
home,

885
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:23,800
and the bank,

886
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:24,360
but,

887
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:24,680
the news,

888
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:25,800
I was confused,

889
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:26,920
by maybe,

890
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:27,320
down,

891
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:27,880
maybe,

892
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:28,360
do you know,

893
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:28,760
in the years,

894
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:29,480
I was going to say,

895
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:29,800
we said,

896
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:30,520
we did talk,

897
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:30,840
and,

898
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:32,920
that it was an unfair story.

899
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:35,240
Then I mentioned,

900
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:36,760
the fact that,

901
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:38,120
the number of pilots,

902
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:39,000
were made on the mission,

903
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:39,800
saying in New York,

904
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:40,360
over a year,

905
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:41,560
and I thought,

906
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:42,120
I heard that,

907
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:42,440
you know,

908
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:43,240
the party,

909
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:44,120
was supposed,

910
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:45,640
of an entire,

911
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:47,000
to be turned to,

912
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:48,040
in the 1950s,

913
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:49,880
and this is going to be what was described,

914
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:50,200
in our,

915
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:51,960
in spite of that,

916
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:53,080
the Air Force came out,

917
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:54,280
and released a public statement,

918
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:55,320
that this man had been,

919
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:55,800
said,

920
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:56,520
fighting with a woman,

921
00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:58,280
and that's another thing,

922
00:30:59,000 --> 00:30:59,880
was not,

923
00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:00,520
on the air.

924
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:02,840
Most of the other,

925
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:04,200
it had to do with sightings,

926
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:05,800
or there was one other thing,

927
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:06,440
especially,

928
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:07,560
report 14,

929
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:08,200
that's the,

930
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:08,840
the Air Force,

931
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:09,240
group of,

932
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:10,520
reports,

933
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:12,200
the reports they say,

934
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:13,480
that they analyzed,

935
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:14,120
3200,

936
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:14,680
one case,

937
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:15,480
was,

938
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:16,360
and they had,

939
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:17,240
in the back of it,

940
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:18,200
the sugar table,

941
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:20,200
that's 19 and a half percent,

942
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:22,120
were unexplained,

943
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:22,760
in other words,

944
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:24,440
to add on the rest,

945
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:25,800
that they hadn't explained,

946
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:26,520
on its day,

947
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:27,000
that makes it,

948
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:27,800
total of more than,

949
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:28,360
700.

950
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:29,240
There was,

951
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:30,360
less than 7,000,

952
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:31,240
so 700,

953
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:32,280
or 7,700,

954
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:33,480
or more than 12 percent,

955
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:34,360
are unexplained,

956
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:34,920
and the Air Force,

957
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:35,480
would miss that,

958
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:36,760
but they come out and say,

959
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:37,720
we are currently,

960
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,120
explaining 1.9 percent,

961
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:41,000
and would it currently,

962
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:41,880
get dropped out,

963
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:42,600
and everybody thinks,

964
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:43,160
the Air Force,

965
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:43,720
has explained,

966
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:44,360
like,

967
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:45,880
all but 2 percent of the value.

968
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:47,880
I had that in there,

969
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:48,760
and part of it,

970
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:49,480
was left there.

971
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:51,080
The one other thing,

972
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:52,120
that I wanted to mention,

973
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:52,840
was,

974
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:54,040
the fact that the Air Force,

975
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:55,160
said that they could not,

976
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:57,320
build a working model,

977
00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:58,360
of a flight software,

978
00:31:58,360 --> 00:31:58,680
because,

979
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:00,600
they had 12 cases,

980
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:01,640
out of all these,

981
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:02,200
that they called,

982
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:03,080
the cleaner the clock,

983
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:04,520
and that all of them,

984
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:05,240
were describing,

985
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:06,360
different objects.

986
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:07,000
And let's just,

987
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:07,800
by the fact that,

988
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:09,080
in 1949,

989
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:11,480
Project Gretsch,

990
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:12,200
report,

991
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:13,000
was released,

992
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:13,720
temporarily,

993
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:14,520
and later,

994
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:15,560
was classified,

995
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:16,440
and it said that,

996
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:18,440
there were several groups,

997
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:19,080
Group 1,

998
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:19,960
the most numerous,

999
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:20,840
described,

1000
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:22,040
a disc-shaped object,

1001
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:23,960
the Pantler metallic,

1002
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:25,640
which was,

1003
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:26,920
which had a diameter,

1004
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:28,040
10 times the thickness,

1005
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:29,640
of the object,

1006
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:29,800
which,

1007
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:30,280
these things,

1008
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:30,920
were labeled both,

1009
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:32,040
swift accelerations,

1010
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:33,400
and high speed trends,

1011
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:34,280
and expected group,

1012
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:35,400
was numerous objects,

1013
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:36,040
same at night,

1014
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:36,920
and the third group,

1015
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:37,080
was,

1016
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:38,680
Cigar shaped objects.

1017
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:39,320
Now, you can make,

1018
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:41,000
you certainly can make,

1019
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:42,120
working models,

1020
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:42,840
out of a disc,

1021
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:44,120
or a cigar shaped object,

1022
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:45,960
so there's special report 14,

1023
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:46,760
was apparently,

1024
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:47,080
later,

1025
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:48,040
out to the seas,

1026
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:48,920
they make a people.

1027
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:49,560
And this was,

1028
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:50,920
denounced shortly afterwards,

1029
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:52,040
by chapter new thought,

1030
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:53,640
performing it in the project,

1031
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:54,200
which said that,

1032
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:55,240
he was responsible,

1033
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:56,440
for having this,

1034
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:57,160
thing gone up,

1035
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:58,200
and when he came in,

1036
00:32:58,200 --> 00:32:58,920
everybody agreed,

1037
00:32:58,920 --> 00:32:59,320
it was like,

1038
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:00,040
it was working.

1039
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:01,320
And there's still,

1040
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:01,800
there's what,

1041
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:03,800
over the official document,

1042
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:04,920
of the earthwork.

1043
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:05,480
Major,

1044
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:07,960
there's a question on these documents,

1045
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:08,440
and tomorrow,

1046
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:09,080
we're starting to,

1047
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:10,840
you know,

1048
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,480
the content of these documents,

1049
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:14,040
so you can't,

1050
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:14,680
to leave them,

1051
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:15,000
is that,

1052
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:15,400
so,

1053
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:15,880
other way,

1054
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:18,520
another.

1055
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:18,840
Now,

1056
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:20,920
earlier this evening,

1057
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:22,520
the Air Force,

1058
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:22,760
who,

1059
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:24,040
it's a war,

1060
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:25,640
denied that,

1061
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:26,760
to the thing that was,

1062
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:27,080
this,

1063
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:28,200
this,

1064
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:29,080
and stated that,

1065
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:30,120
the force,

1066
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:30,680
sacrament,

1067
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:31,240
did exist,

1068
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:33,160
but those contents,

1069
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:34,440
were pretty diametrically,

1070
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:35,720
opposite to what you claim,

1071
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:36,040
in fact,

1072
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:36,520
they claim,

1073
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:37,000
I think it was,

1074
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:37,560
the statement of,

1075
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:38,600
the Secretary of Honor,

1076
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:39,960
that,

1077
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:40,360
in fact,

1078
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:42,440
the contents of the sacrament,

1079
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:43,880
were,

1080
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:44,360
that,

1081
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:45,320
the public should be,

1082
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:46,360
widely informed,

1083
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:47,080
true,

1084
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:47,720
but they should be,

1085
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:48,840
widely informed,

1086
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:50,440
that there was no evidence,

1087
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:51,320
to support the,

1088
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:53,400
hypothesis,

1089
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:53,960
that there were,

1090
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:54,360
fine,

1091
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:54,840
postures,

1092
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:55,640
or spaceships,

1093
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:56,360
so why have you?

1094
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:57,880
Now, earlier,

1095
00:33:57,880 --> 00:33:58,600
you said that,

1096
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:00,920
on the Armstrong and Chesley Theater,

1097
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:02,360
they did not want to get into this,

1098
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:03,240
because it would,

1099
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:03,800
the Air Force,

1100
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:05,400
would deny the existence of them,

1101
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:05,800
and would,

1102
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:06,200
in fact,

1103
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:07,560
be calling Captain Rupoge,

1104
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:08,120
a liar.

1105
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:09,400
Now,

1106
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,080
can I assume that the Air Force,

1107
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:12,760
has now called Captain Rupoge,

1108
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:13,640
a liar,

1109
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:14,440
through its statement,

1110
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:15,560
of 30 of this evening?

1111
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:16,760
It would appear to me,

1112
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:17,480
if they had,

1113
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:17,720
you know,

1114
00:34:19,240 --> 00:34:19,800
and,

1115
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:20,440
that's very,

1116
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:21,000
just a,

1117
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:22,040
quite a number of points,

1118
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:22,440
because,

1119
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:23,000
in fact,

1120
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:23,640
the only one,

1121
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:25,000
who confirmed the existence,

1122
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:25,880
of these documents,

1123
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:27,880
I learned of the existence,

1124
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:28,680
of two of them,

1125
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:29,720
a long time before,

1126
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:31,320
when his book came out.

1127
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:32,040
Now,

1128
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:33,080
the very funny thing,

1129
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:34,040
about the one they do,

1130
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:34,360
is that,

1131
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:36,360
both were,

1132
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:37,880
not an Air Force document,

1133
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:39,720
solely,

1134
00:34:39,720 --> 00:34:41,480
it was originally,

1135
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:43,160
an investigation,

1136
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:43,720
or rather,

1137
00:34:43,720 --> 00:34:44,120
a,

1138
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:46,280
an examination of evidence,

1139
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:47,080
by scientists,

1140
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:47,640
called together,

1141
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:49,320
by the Central and Collison Patients.

1142
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:51,560
They were on the show,

1143
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:52,360
with the Air Force,

1144
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:53,160
producing the,

1145
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:53,880
they were saying,

1146
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:54,120
hey,

1147
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:55,400
and,

1148
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:56,200
these scientists,

1149
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:57,480
all the scientists,

1150
00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:57,800
maybe,

1151
00:34:57,800 --> 00:34:58,760
some English,

1152
00:34:58,760 --> 00:34:59,400
Spaniards,

1153
00:34:59,400 --> 00:34:59,880
and so on,

1154
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:02,680
were calling to advise the Air Force,

1155
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:03,240
what they did.

1156
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:04,520
Now,

1157
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:05,720
the one recommendation,

1158
00:35:05,720 --> 00:35:06,280
in my,

1159
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:07,400
which is very important,

1160
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:07,720
is that,

1161
00:35:07,720 --> 00:35:08,200
they said,

1162
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:09,560
you should quadruple the size,

1163
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:10,280
of the project,

1164
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,120
and fill out special observation posts.

1165
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:14,200
Now, that's one thing,

1166
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:14,920
that people,

1167
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:15,400
the project,

1168
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:16,280
have been fighting for.

1169
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:17,720
We both mentioned,

1170
00:35:17,720 --> 00:35:18,120
in the,

1171
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:18,520
that,

1172
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:19,320
basic general,

1173
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:21,240
William Garland,

1174
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:23,720
who had gone out of ATI,

1175
00:35:23,720 --> 00:35:24,200
I think,

1176
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:25,400
came to the Pentagon,

1177
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:26,440
and fought for this,

1178
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:28,360
and was finally turned down.

1179
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:29,640
He wanted to carry through,

1180
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:30,200
the thing called,

1181
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:30,600
Rupa,

1182
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:31,960
and their observation posts,

1183
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:32,520
and so forth.

1184
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:35,720
It's very easy to call down,

1185
00:35:35,720 --> 00:35:36,760
and call down,

1186
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:37,320
find down,

1187
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:37,960
and everything,

1188
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:39,240
Rupa mentions in there,

1189
00:35:39,240 --> 00:35:40,520
and it's interesting to note,

1190
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:41,880
that nobody mentioned,

1191
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:42,440
by Rupa,

1192
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:43,000
in that book,

1193
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:44,120
has ever come out and said,

1194
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:44,760
that's a lie.

1195
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:46,920
And copies of that book,

1196
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:48,680
went to every officer in there,

1197
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:49,560
who's mentioned it.

1198
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:51,640
Uh, there's no question,

1199
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:52,680
that those things exist,

1200
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:53,640
but the local airport,

1201
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:54,200
have missed it.

1202
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:55,400
So now,

1203
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:56,520
on the spot,

1204
00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:57,560
well,

1205
00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:58,200
the system,

1206
00:35:58,200 --> 00:35:58,680
then,

1207
00:35:58,680 --> 00:35:59,400
finally having,

1208
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:00,040
denied it,

1209
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:01,160
finally denied it seems,

1210
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,320
that it is no longer a case,

1211
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:04,120
of perhaps,

1212
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:05,160
concealing things,

1213
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:05,880
from the public.

1214
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:07,800
But it is,

1215
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:08,360
and now,

1216
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:09,800
pretty much a flat case,

1217
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:11,000
of somebody,

1218
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:11,320
either,

1219
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:12,040
Captain Rupa,

1220
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:12,920
and the other gentlemen,

1221
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:14,280
or the official,

1222
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:14,920
of the denizens,

1223
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:15,640
of the Air Force,

1224
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:16,680
are just playing lying.

1225
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:18,600
Well, I don't like to use the word,

1226
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:18,920
lying.

1227
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:20,280
Here's what I would like to say,

1228
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:20,520
that,

1229
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:22,440
there are people,

1230
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:23,480
who think,

1231
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:24,360
that it is wise,

1232
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,040
not to let the American people,

1233
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:26,280
know,

1234
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:26,440
and,

1235
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:27,720
that it is not a lie.

1236
00:36:27,720 --> 00:36:28,920
And I spend time with them,

1237
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:29,400
it's no more,

1238
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:30,040
no more trouble,

1239
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:30,920
watching them today.

1240
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:33,240
Thanks, brother,

1241
00:36:33,240 --> 00:36:33,960
we'll decide,

1242
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:34,600
what is best,

1243
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:35,800
to the American people.

1244
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:36,840
And I think it's wrong.

1245
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:37,560
Now, when I say,

1246
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:38,520
I am speaking,

1247
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:39,560
for most of the people,

1248
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:40,040
on our board,

1249
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:40,600
in government,

1250
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:40,840
and,

1251
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:42,520
you could say,

1252
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:43,880
as well,

1253
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:44,920
started out saying,

1254
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:45,880
well, everybody,

1255
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:46,840
connected with things,

1256
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:47,960
to be a type father,

1257
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:48,600
or something like,

1258
00:36:49,240 --> 00:36:49,800
that,

1259
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:50,360
we have,

1260
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:51,160
like I've known,

1261
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:51,800
already shown,

1262
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:52,120
Carter,

1263
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:52,760
as I mentioned,

1264
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:54,120
in the family,

1265
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:55,400
and in the CIA.

1266
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:57,400
We had a wonderful world record,

1267
00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,080
and we had both of those numbers,

1268
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:00,600
and also a fine world record,

1269
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:01,720
Colonel Robert Emerson,

1270
00:37:01,720 --> 00:37:02,360
USAI,

1271
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:03,320
who occasionally wrote on,

1272
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,400
asking duty for the Army today,

1273
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:06,680
and best to give this been used.

1274
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:09,720
J.B. Hartman,

1275
00:37:09,720 --> 00:37:10,440
who's president of,

1276
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,440
Aircraft Owners and Powers Association,

1277
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:13,960
the widest organization in the world,

1278
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:14,440
of power,

1279
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:14,840
power.

1280
00:37:15,720 --> 00:37:16,760
Major foreign agent,

1281
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:17,720
who was on the project,

1282
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:20,040
and number one man in Washington,

1283
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:21,240
number one investigator.

1284
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:23,560
According to a number of people,

1285
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:24,440
when he tried to get this,

1286
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:25,240
he just mentioned him,

1287
00:37:25,240 --> 00:37:26,840
where he went to fight him a while ago,

1288
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:28,120
and from the religious leaders,

1289
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:29,000
the professional man,

1290
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:30,200
in defiance in Rushdie.

1291
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:31,320
And,

1292
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:34,040
we have a number of other people,

1293
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:35,160
who were not recognized,

1294
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:35,640
to use,

1295
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:37,080
who are special advisors,

1296
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:37,880
in various fields,

1297
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:39,640
among top-rock and middleman.

1298
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:41,000
These people,

1299
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:42,360
most of them,

1300
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:43,000
who were real,

1301
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:44,760
that the Aircraft Spirits,

1302
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:46,600
continued to fight from the public.

1303
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:48,040
May I ask you this Major Keel,

1304
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:49,800
you've given us a list of names here.

1305
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,360
Would you go on record here this morning,

1306
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:53,960
and make the statement,

1307
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:55,400
that all of these people,

1308
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,320
whose names you have just listed to,

1309
00:37:57,960 --> 00:37:59,880
would you say that they all believe,

1310
00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:03,720
that these new folks are from the planet A?

1311
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:05,480
No, I won't say that,

1312
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,160
because there's a variation in that.

1313
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:10,680
I do hope the statement on that goes out,

1314
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:13,560
within the next week or two.

1315
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,040
At least there will be a statement,

1316
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:18,120
by Majority of the Board,

1317
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:20,040
on this question of censorship.

1318
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:22,920
Some of the Board members,

1319
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,560
and I think it goes up to more than 50%,

1320
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,600
believe that these things are on the planet A.

1321
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:30,120
I'm not going to identify them,

1322
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:31,800
until each one has given me permission.

1323
00:38:33,720 --> 00:38:36,280
Some of them are absolutely convinced of it.

1324
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:37,720
Some of them say it looks like it,

1325
00:38:37,720 --> 00:38:38,600
they're all what's convinced,

1326
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:39,240
and others say,

1327
00:38:39,240 --> 00:38:41,240
I still like to see some more evidence.

1328
00:38:41,240 --> 00:38:42,840
One quick question,

1329
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,000
and then I'll have to take care of those, maybe.

1330
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,680
Are you representing nightcast this morning,

1331
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:51,960
or are you talking as Major Donald E. Peeho?

1332
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:53,400
I'm representing my trip,

1333
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:54,360
and let me tell you what,

1334
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,040
my personal views aside,

1335
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:57,480
it's a little hard to split my share,

1336
00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:58,040
I don't know why.

1337
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:02,920
But what I have said up to now,

1338
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:05,800
here goes the joist of my trip.

1339
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:08,680
I have one big question to ask you,

1340
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:10,280
said, and then there's no doubt my other

1341
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:12,200
settlement is down here,

1342
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:13,560
and I'm going to ask questions too.

1343
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,160
I heard the interview,

1344
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:20,040
I saw and had the interview with Mike Wallace last night,

1345
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:23,400
and I noticed when the name's Manger,

1346
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:28,680
and a dance piece just brought up,

1347
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,720
you gave a very, very quick answer.

1348
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:33,720
You were not interested,

1349
00:39:33,720 --> 00:39:34,840
I think that was your answer.

1350
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:38,440
So I'm going to qualify for this reason,

1351
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,040
and I had an answer already,

1352
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:41,560
so I had a particular question,

1353
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:45,960
but I had been under the impression that being

1354
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:47,800
in your commercial break,

1355
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,040
was in the middle of a show,

1356
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:51,240
and then I still had,

1357
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:53,000
we had after that,

1358
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:54,440
all 10 minutes or so.

1359
00:39:55,240 --> 00:39:57,160
So when the commercial break came up,

1360
00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,800
and one of the program officials came over,

1361
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:00,280
and said,

1362
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,600
you've got three minutes after this,

1363
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,880
and you've already had the question on the line now,

1364
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:07,000
and I thought,

1365
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:08,920
good heaven, I would get ready to screw

1366
00:40:09,240 --> 00:40:10,280
some hot stuff out,

1367
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:11,720
and put some documents,

1368
00:40:11,720 --> 00:40:13,160
and whatever I was going to read.

1369
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:17,320
And so I know I'm going to expose that as quickly as possible.

1370
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:18,760
It was not where the attention

1371
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:20,840
of sounding high-boiled,

1372
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:22,600
because I immediately tried to add,

1373
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:24,760
but we are policy-less than one,

1374
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:26,280
to the granular elements,

1375
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,480
and we have written all of the chief contactee,

1376
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:30,680
and asked them,

1377
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:32,280
if they were sending the elements,

1378
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:33,800
and if they were the 10 public hearings,

1379
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:37,160
or they're writing such and such and so on.

1380
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:40,040
Now, that answer should have been,

1381
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:41,560
since no, I don't think so,

1382
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:42,200
it's a border,

1383
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:43,320
it's just an indication,

1384
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,880
we don't think anyone is good when we clarify elements.

1385
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:49,720
While I was rushing through trying to get to my main points,

1386
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,440
before Mike Walsh could cut me off,

1387
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:54,440
and that's why it sounds very explosive,

1388
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:58,280
it was not an insult type of answer,

1389
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:01,080
but it was not a very quick answer to get on to,

1390
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:02,280
for my few minutes or so.

1391
00:41:03,240 --> 00:41:05,160
Well, I hope you realize that you have

1392
00:41:05,720 --> 00:41:09,000
plenty of time to give us some of that information.

1393
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:09,880
Childhand.

1394
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:13,640
There was a question that was suggested as one of the

1395
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:14,040
A's,

1396
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:15,800
thankfully we never written any about 20,

1397
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:17,720
it was just kept to be too long,

1398
00:41:17,720 --> 00:41:18,680
and cut it down off.

1399
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,600
I don't know how I would like to find out a context,

1400
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:24,440
and somebody said,

1401
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:25,640
believe I'm writing text,

1402
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:26,520
since I would check,

1403
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:28,440
don't care if we're in the U.S. making a text,

1404
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:32,760
and perhaps to see that there were two or three people there,

1405
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:34,920
and that they were in no way connected,

1406
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:35,720
with America,

1407
00:41:35,720 --> 00:41:37,160
and I would insist that one of them

1408
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:38,600
not be connected with my class,

1409
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:42,120
I never want to get away with actual of these people,

1410
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:43,000
to see whether,

1411
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:44,040
on a certain condition,

1412
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:44,840
they would accept it,

1413
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:45,880
or whether it's,

1414
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,120
and also whether it's in public hearing,

1415
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:49,320
and anybody who has to do that,

1416
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:49,960
to just check.

1417
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:53,160
If I remember correctly,

1418
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:55,800
two people did,

1419
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:59,240
one of them was Angelou Chees,

1420
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:00,840
fantastic.

1421
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:04,280
Now, I also agree to submit to a live,

1422
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:08,520
I will have to check that I remember,

1423
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:09,560
it was to that effect,

1424
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:10,440
I don't understand,

1425
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:13,080
I think we have it in the magazine here, right?

1426
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,640
We could just be surprised that we got,

1427
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:16,440
but what happened?

1428
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:18,280
Well, the point is this,

1429
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:19,400
we have stated that,

1430
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:20,600
is whenever that happens,

1431
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:21,800
able to have been shown,

1432
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:24,280
it's going to be an expensive proposition

1433
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:26,920
to transport somebody from the West Coast,

1434
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:30,680
and to put them up for whatever time the text will be shown,

1435
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:32,280
and I also have always said,

1436
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:33,880
but I felt that,

1437
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:34,440
I should be,

1438
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:36,200
the rest of the additional financial findings

1439
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:37,080
should come first.

1440
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:38,760
Nature keyhole,

1441
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:42,120
don't you think that's a rather unfortunate situation?

1442
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:42,680
In other words,

1443
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,040
let us say as an example,

1444
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:47,640
that I, one night,

1445
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:49,000
coming from this microphone,

1446
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:52,040
and I was saying that I was riding down the Jersey Chesson Pike,

1447
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,520
and I saw a light in the sky,

1448
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:57,640
and something landed near the side of a highway,

1449
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:00,840
and it was an emulsion spaceship,

1450
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:01,720
and I took a ride,

1451
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:03,320
and of course I do this show,

1452
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,160
and there's some people would believe me,

1453
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:06,520
and many people wouldn't believe me,

1454
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:07,720
the same as any of the others,

1455
00:43:07,720 --> 00:43:10,760
so immediately you hear about it,

1456
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:12,840
and you send me one of these forms,

1457
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:13,720
and they're out,

1458
00:43:13,720 --> 00:43:14,600
and I said out,

1459
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:15,320
and I agreed,

1460
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:16,680
yes, by all means,

1461
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:17,640
that major keyhole,

1462
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:18,680
bring the light attack,

1463
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:19,400
the attack something.

1464
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:21,000
Of course,

1465
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:23,080
you possibly sent this far,

1466
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,000
maybe to 40 or 50 people,

1467
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:28,600
and I am one of three people who have agreed

1468
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:30,120
to submit to the light attack.

1469
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:31,800
The outcome of it is,

1470
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:34,120
you don't have this available at the present time.

1471
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:38,200
Wouldn't you say that this would sort of imply

1472
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:40,520
that I am honest,

1473
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:42,440
and that I'm telling a legitimate story

1474
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:44,200
because I'm willing to submit to it?

1475
00:43:45,240 --> 00:43:47,480
I wouldn't say very employee that 100%.

1476
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:49,400
You know, it's not a lot of people

1477
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:51,080
that will agree to anything

1478
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:53,800
because we are convinced of what they're saying.

1479
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:55,480
You know that sometimes,

1480
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:57,640
a man can be so convinced of the truth,

1481
00:43:57,640 --> 00:43:58,920
as he said at the next time,

1482
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:02,360
but he's been looking for so many years to say,

1483
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:03,560
I've been following that, too.

1484
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:04,840
Yeah, I think that's possible.

1485
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:07,480
The whole thing was unfortunate.

1486
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:09,320
I did not want to cook the role

1487
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:11,720
in this contact business to a fool

1488
00:44:11,720 --> 00:44:13,080
because I thought that

1489
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:13,960
you have to,

1490
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:16,280
the first job is to convince the American people,

1491
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:17,320
and the press,

1492
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:18,200
he still believes.

1493
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:19,480
After that,

1494
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:21,240
they're saying to move on orders.

1495
00:44:21,240 --> 00:44:23,560
So don't you think that's the easy way,

1496
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:24,120
and believe me,

1497
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:25,880
I'm not being critical of you saying,

1498
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:27,640
nice, that I'm not in the mission to be,

1499
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:29,160
and I don't think that's my right to be.

1500
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:33,640
But you said you're major CEO,

1501
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:36,200
and you tell us about these findings,

1502
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:37,800
and they're still really interesting.

1503
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:40,120
And of course,

1504
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:45,000
you have no tangible proof to a voice this morning,

1505
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,720
which that's the fact that this pilot,

1506
00:44:47,720 --> 00:44:48,520
and that pilot,

1507
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:50,040
and this Air Force General,

1508
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:50,920
has made the statement.

1509
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:52,360
These are final mandates,

1510
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:54,280
but don't you think it would prove more

1511
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:55,560
to the American public

1512
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:57,800
that there is something to this voice

1513
00:44:57,800 --> 00:44:58,840
that could be proven?

1514
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:00,440
That these pilots and plane

1515
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:01,400
that they've been talking to,

1516
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:02,680
the motions and motions,

1517
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:03,560
and it could be proven

1518
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:04,600
that they're telling the truth?

1519
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:05,720
I don't buy it myself.

1520
00:45:05,720 --> 00:45:06,600
I actually made it.

1521
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:07,000
All right?

1522
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,240
I really easy as to tell me the idea,

1523
00:45:09,240 --> 00:45:12,200
but this is something that I also have to answer,

1524
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:12,360
right,

1525
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:14,280
because you're on a little question,

1526
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:16,200
about not having anything tangible.

1527
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:19,000
There are photographs,

1528
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:21,880
and there are great photographs of radar scope,

1529
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:24,440
so in triangulation of objects,

1530
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:26,040
and there are pieces of metal,

1531
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:26,840
which is called

1532
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:29,160
some objects which have disintegrated,

1533
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:30,520
and which we found in Europe

1534
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:31,400
just before we did.

1535
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:33,800
So I would say that it is sometimes,

1536
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:34,680
or ever.

1537
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:35,560
Now to go into this,

1538
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,800
I know quite a lot of very misty people,

1539
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:40,200
ma'am,

1540
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:41,080
and a number of

1541
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:43,320
who's castes in Washington.

1542
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:44,920
I said,

1543
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:46,360
what is your opinion?

1544
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:48,920
What's the best policy for life yet?

1545
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:50,200
That's why I was put in there,

1546
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:50,680
and in the air,

1547
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:52,360
but sometimes we show a lot of them,

1548
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:52,600
and so on.

1549
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:53,400
But anyway,

1550
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:54,920
I said,

1551
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:58,520
that's not what you personally believe.

1552
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:02,120
It is smart to concentrate on your factual studies,

1553
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:03,560
because the minute you start here

1554
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:04,520
on any other angle,

1555
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:05,640
you're going to lose the plan.

1556
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:08,840
Then you will start being ridiculed,

1557
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:11,240
and so they accept that's God I started.

1558
00:46:11,240 --> 00:46:12,200
Really, accept them,

1559
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:15,000
and not the minute you start signing with all you do,

1560
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:16,920
it could be the best advice we can give you,

1561
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:18,280
it's not even emotional.

1562
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:20,200
So, so you have to know,

1563
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:21,000
this keeps still.

1564
00:46:21,720 --> 00:46:23,240
So I thought that at first,

1565
00:46:23,720 --> 00:46:24,440
it didn't work.

1566
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:26,200
The pressure's built up,

1567
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:27,480
because there are many things

1568
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:28,600
who are conservative

1569
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:30,360
and still these things are true.

1570
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:32,280
And some people who accept all of them,

1571
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:34,280
and some people accept the few.

1572
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:37,000
The pressure just so great,

1573
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:40,200
but I was accused of clamping a win.

1574
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:42,600
Say I only got five exposed censorship,

1575
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:43,880
and I'm clamping a win on it,

1576
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:44,520
on my story.

1577
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:45,400
So I said, all right.

1578
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:46,840
So I could, you know,

1579
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:49,160
revise one article for a better policy.

1580
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:50,600
And we set out these questions,

1581
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:52,200
and we did not send you a lot of people,

1582
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:54,680
because we selected the best normal.

1583
00:46:55,720 --> 00:46:57,240
So by now I think hundreds

1584
00:46:57,960 --> 00:46:59,880
of people in contact with communication,

1585
00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:00,680
see on the board.

1586
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:04,440
So, it didn't satisfy anybody.

1587
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:07,640
It's because people that don't believe in the law,

1588
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:08,120
they don't say,

1589
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:09,800
what are you borrowing your rights for?

1590
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:11,080
What's the idea?

1591
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:13,400
Now, we've not made up for the fact that organizations,

1592
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:15,240
but people who agree with the context of all this,

1593
00:47:15,240 --> 00:47:16,440
they said, you know,

1594
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,000
I trained the first people to take a law to get to say.

1595
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:22,040
It was obvious that there's no better way than it was.

1596
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:27,000
I think we'll say that I had tried very hard,

1597
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:27,960
and tonight's class,

1598
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:29,560
this is the first time that I have said anything,

1599
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:32,200
it's time with a little hardball.

1600
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:33,400
I tried very hard to say,

1601
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:34,760
really, I'm going to be impartial.

1602
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:36,120
If anybody can bring an answer,

1603
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:38,680
we'll prove it will convince not many,

1604
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:40,120
but the advisors on the board,

1605
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:43,880
that we'll be out and writing on the back of the panel.

1606
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:45,320
Sha?

1607
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:48,040
Now, which leads up to a good question,

1608
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:51,960
I wonder if perhaps you as the director of my cap

1609
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:54,280
or perhaps the panel key,

1610
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:59,000
I'll try to see if that's the contact stories

1611
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:00,440
by damaging your case.

1612
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:03,480
I think they are the way

1613
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:05,880
it sets us all beautiful reality

1614
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:07,720
by most people in the United States.

1615
00:48:07,720 --> 00:48:10,280
And I said that in a state of the policy,

1616
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:12,600
you know, I think I was thinking of the issue.

1617
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:15,880
I said, no matter what people are,

1618
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:17,480
why don't you take a few seats,

1619
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:21,320
and let's prove that these findings are correct.

1620
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:23,320
Take the most factual ones you can get,

1621
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:25,320
and the ones from this paper by,

1622
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:27,800
and the best-of-priced by the individual,

1623
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:32,040
objected, nothing can stop investigational,

1624
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:33,240
every phase, everything,

1625
00:48:33,240 --> 00:48:35,400
the communication planes, the contact planes,

1626
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:38,600
every angle will immediately be explored,

1627
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:41,400
because then it will be the biggest story it's got.

1628
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:42,280
And I'll jump on it,

1629
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:44,120
you'll have thousands of people writing

1630
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:45,560
and talking about it from there on.

1631
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:49,320
So let's get the facts in there.

1632
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:51,480
And that's the one thing the Air Force is worried about.

1633
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:53,160
They want the contact stories,

1634
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:56,120
because it helps them to wrap it up.

1635
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:58,280
Now, I've been being similar over,

1636
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:00,040
there may be a guy with a contact story

1637
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:02,200
that is absolutely 100% true,

1638
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:03,560
and he's been crucified.

1639
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,160
I will admit that in my book,

1640
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:09,480
particularly the second one,

1641
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:11,640
I took some cracks.

1642
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:13,640
And I treated the subject very lightly,

1643
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:16,360
if I would write another one now,

1644
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:17,480
I don't know what I would do.

1645
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:19,960
I probably would stay for my set policy,

1646
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:21,320
and keep writing with them.

1647
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:21,720
I'll ever.

1648
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:24,680
One brief question that made you feel,

1649
00:49:25,720 --> 00:49:28,760
you have made the statement a couple of times this morning

1650
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:30,840
that you feel that the government

1651
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:33,480
is actually a sort of a big brother.

1652
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:35,320
You're going to tell us the things that they think

1653
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:37,320
that we can stand here,

1654
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:39,000
and the things that we shouldn't hear,

1655
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:40,360
they're not going to tell us about.

1656
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:42,040
Now, in other words,

1657
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:45,960
what you've implied is that they possibly know

1658
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:46,920
as much as you do,

1659
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:48,600
maybe even a little bit more

1660
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:51,160
about these things that are flying around,

1661
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:53,960
and possibly they know that they're coming to Mother's friends.

1662
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:55,000
You've said it before,

1663
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:57,640
but anyway, no, my question is just this,

1664
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:02,920
is it possible that there may be some foreign government,

1665
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:05,240
and talking about a government on this planet,

1666
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:07,400
that maybe they've developed something

1667
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:09,960
that acts like people,

1668
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:12,840
and maybe our government is familiar with the fact

1669
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:15,880
that it's maybe something that was built by election,

1670
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:18,200
and that they don't want to tell us that,

1671
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:21,640
because they're afraid that it may cause too much yet consent.

1672
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:24,920
Well, that approach was the first after the

1673
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:27,560
the Air Force and the Navy and the Army

1674
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:30,280
considered back in 47 when they had the mass fighting.

1675
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:33,400
And there were a lot of scared people running around the very dawn,

1676
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:36,360
when these things finally seemed to be real.

1677
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:39,000
And then they began to start,

1678
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:42,440
and to believe that they still had a terrific lead here.

1679
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:45,720
And listen, two years since the end of World War II,

1680
00:50:45,720 --> 00:50:49,480
and the devastated factories, and we've had nothing,

1681
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:51,640
and all of a sudden they've got a perfect global weapon,

1682
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:54,760
else these are coming from somewhere else.

1683
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:57,800
So they did an easy intelligence job.

1684
00:50:57,800 --> 00:50:59,880
The end of six months, when we opened the British,

1685
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:03,560
they had ruled out any possibility this could be Russian.

1686
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:06,120
And now, that's the time for menace that they were Russian.

1687
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:10,520
It was given that suppression for actually since the middle of World War II,

1688
00:51:11,240 --> 00:51:13,000
the Russians had something in operation,

1689
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,480
or maybe it was the Germans, and that's the trick of the word.

1690
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:17,880
And then they were protected by 47.

1691
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:21,640
For one year, they've been building ordinary ships

1692
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:24,360
and working like knives and build missiles and get weapons in the air.

1693
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:27,320
When they already had, they all did this for six to five, some weapons.

1694
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:30,440
They were letting us go fight them.

1695
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:32,760
And all they had to do was take one of these things,

1696
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:36,040
and say, we are ready to have it over the center,

1697
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:39,480
which is okay until tomorrow, and everybody better get out of there,

1698
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:41,720
because when we have it, we will adopt something,

1699
00:51:41,720 --> 00:51:45,480
and they could prove it without any doubt, and they will rule the world by now.

1700
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:49,880
And we'll just do any possible use of a Soviet axis,

1701
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:53,400
and the US secret weapon, and so it was about the same way,

1702
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:57,720
because we wouldn't be so afraid, and we're certainly not afraid of the Russians in the air,

1703
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:01,240
and we would not be building ordinary ships and missiles.

1704
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:05,720
At some point in the film, I had some cars running,

1705
00:52:05,720 --> 00:52:08,600
which was Mr. Ryan Holt Schmidt, and caught in the breast,

1706
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:13,720
and I reviewed the six-page letter, and put through a letter I had sent him.

1707
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:17,960
And I do have the impression, I may be entirely wrong,

1708
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:22,840
that NICE-HAP has signed a letter, or a questionnaire, has contacted it.

1709
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:24,280
Do you have any recollection of it?

1710
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:25,160
No, we do not.

1711
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:26,280
You do not.

1712
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:31,160
No, in fact, I think it was through some confusion,

1713
00:52:31,240 --> 00:52:33,960
there between my man and my wife and my man Wayne A. Holt,

1714
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:40,120
because I received a call from a radio station on this paper out there,

1715
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:44,280
wanting to know what we had asked Mr. Schmidt, and I said,

1716
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:45,800
we haven't asked him anything.

1717
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:49,880
I said, well, he said that the head of this Washington officer group had asked him.

1718
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:52,120
I said, well, he said, he's our A. Holt.

1719
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:53,880
Sometimes the main thing can see us.

1720
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:57,720
I assume there's no relationship between the A. Eliot and our...

1721
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:00,840
So he's called your name A. Holt.

1722
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:05,880
The A. Holt, his major Wayne A. Holt, and his Arthur A. Holt.

1723
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:10,520
That brother who's associated with George V. Tassel, Arthur A. Holt,

1724
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:11,640
and then another one.

1725
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:18,760
But I'm interested primarily in the claim of Nick Tristan, so to speak, and Schmidt.

1726
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:22,200
I don't have a lot of wisdom, but the idea basically,

1727
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:24,760
what he expressed in this paper, is that he's Smithland himself,

1728
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:27,560
before he might have some liberal tendencies.

1729
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:30,440
So he was put away by a salty athlete for a little bit.

1730
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:32,200
So that didn't make much sense to me.

1731
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:35,800
I ain't just entirely false, George, but John wants to make...

1732
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:37,800
I'll have to take it for a moment anyway, gentlemen.

1733
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:44,840
But in connection with the effort, I'd like to ask the major if you had any idea

1734
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:48,120
why there apparently has been a change in policy.

1735
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:52,200
I assume the house will have changed from the early 50s to the present time.

1736
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:54,600
Would that be due to the pressure on the house?

1737
00:53:55,880 --> 00:54:01,160
So it was due to the fact that the one time one group was a little more powerful,

1738
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:05,000
and then somebody would be transferred, and then another top level officer would

1739
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:06,840
come in and fill his weight.

1740
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:15,000
The policy, the first 1947, was one of the bathroom looks and let's see what's going on.

1741
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:19,960
And then they began to suspect what it was, and put it under wraps, and then

1742
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:26,680
it was really, you know, 9.48, but sometimes about putting it out, and that got knocked down.

1743
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:30,840
And then it was completely under wraps for a couple of years.

1744
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:33,800
It made the game to get open again with his serious about it.

1745
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:38,280
In 52, they finally decided let's get it out and tell the people,

1746
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:43,720
even though we don't have proof before answers, and in 53, they almost got away with it,

1747
00:54:43,720 --> 00:54:45,800
and then it was knocked down at heart.

1748
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:49,480
And from that on, it's just that your strippers get tighter and tighter.

1749
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:57,480
Even in Congress, things that they have put in writing before, and you put the side to side,

1750
00:54:57,480 --> 00:54:58,200
it's obvious.

1751
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:00,120
Well, you can't, well, the things can't be true.

1752
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:05,640
In fact, that's the only thing that appears, the very time we're there, so that's the other deal.

1753
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:10,600
You know, the other one, some theaters have the secretary order,

1754
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:16,120
saying it was safe to believe that the Air Force was controlling anything,

1755
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:18,520
and I do not qualify this in any way.

1756
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:21,800
But right now, that was the 22nd.

1757
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:27,880
On the 23rd of January, Captain Gregory H. Oldenburg, the Langley Air Force Base, Virginia,

1758
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:33,080
wrote orders to one of the NICAP members who were asked if he could submit an advertisement

1759
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:36,920
to running the Langley Flyer at the base of his paper.

1760
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:41,480
And all it was, was saying, we'd like to hear from those interested in forming a local authority

1761
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:45,880
after a nice little investigation that worked on the original flying surface in your post.

1762
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:51,640
Uh, with the public dissemination of the data from Tate, and this Captain says,

1763
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:55,720
and this is our Air Force stationery, I objected to the running of this ad because I felt

1764
00:55:56,280 --> 00:56:02,280
that it would encourage Air Force personnel to violate President Air Force policy,

1765
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:05,720
and specifically Air Force regulations 200 days to.

1766
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:10,040
Within 24 hours, that's the Air Force stationery, so nobody's denying anything

1767
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:11,800
if the land comes out right.

1768
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:17,320
Not only that, at the bottom of this, asked to turn down a much weaker advertisement.

1769
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:22,280
He says, I wrote a wording in these two ads that's been changed, and it's my belief that

1770
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:27,560
one of the objectives of your organization is the public dissemination of data on unidentified

1771
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:33,400
flying objects. As I pointed out to you on the 23rd of January, this is contrary to Air Force policy

1772
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:39,560
and regulations. Now that's all record. Here's a man who says he forgets the policy and regulations

1773
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:44,280
to disseminate any data to assist and protect the air get gone, and says we're not hiding the

1774
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:49,800
things. On top of that, there's General Kelly writes a letter to Nightcap, and which he says,

1775
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:56,120
you will note that this release reaffirms the United States Air Force position as to the

1776
00:56:56,120 --> 00:57:01,960
non-existence of flying surface. Shortly after that, he wrote a letter to, or called a little

1777
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:07,560
after that, to send the gold warrant, asking about my being, or felt the air, and that was

1778
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:12,920
based by Horner himself, in which he says the allegations of the vehicle, for some

1779
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:19,880
to avail information are you opposed entirely or not? We don't believe and why.

1780
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:28,440
I'd like to ask you one question, Major C. Holt. You mentioned earlier this morning that

1781
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:36,760
New South Atok, the Air Force, told the producer and the writer of the Unstone Circle Theater

1782
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:44,600
that certain material should be deleted from that telecast. This was your impression. Am I right?

1783
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:51,320
Yes. Am I misclosing you? I was told yes, sir. If this is true, and I have no reason to believe

1784
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:58,120
otherwise, why is it that I can sit up here seven nights a week, and I certainly don't want to

1785
00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:04,040
appear to be an egotist, but this is a great and important show for the nation. But nevertheless,

1786
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:10,360
it is available to a lot of people. A lot of people can listen to it because we cover 27 states.

1787
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:17,560
And how is it that no one came over to me and said this, or sent me a wire or a letter and said,

1788
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:24,200
John, when you have this telekino on tonight, don't let him say anything about the Air Force.

1789
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:29,240
Don't let him say this, that, and anything. In very good ways, you don't have an Air Force

1790
00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:36,600
representative in this room. I am such a... Do you not go to be able to let me speak freely?

1791
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:39,000
I want to tell someone this. Maybe.

1792
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:54,760
I have heard some stories, maybe, about the Air Force having been given, I don't think the

1793
00:58:54,760 --> 00:59:03,320
words sing this would apply, various films of view follows, and that having been returned.

1794
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:16,360
Will that happen? That's not the same thing. Usually those cases, the Air Force asks for the

1795
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:21,720
original, and in one case that I know of, because I was right in the middle, I helped handle it,

1796
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:28,200
they would give the man a copy or two. When he got the copy, he swore up and down they were

1797
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:33,560
useless and demanded the original back. I don't know whatever happened. In that particular case,

1798
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:38,520
I'm not sure that these things were bonafide, useful, but they looked really like faux dogs.

1799
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:43,080
But regardless, he didn't get his original back the last time I heard about it.

1800
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:48,840
But those other things, they weren't supposed to be sinister about three men, but they were black.

1801
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:54,360
I'm personally no part of the finished fearless, or anything. This is something like that.

1802
00:59:56,360 --> 01:00:04,600
That's the end. No, but anyway, no one has ever tried to silence me except in one case where

1803
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:09,560
they tried to argue me and not write it, to not write anymore about the

1804
01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:14,280
express and friendly rights of our client's company. That was done in the open, though,

1805
01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:17,720
but then in the office of General Sery Smith, who was then director of this race,

1806
01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:21,000
was there for the whole land press conference. They did very bold,

1807
01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:26,280
of intelligence and two theories, and they tried to convince me that everything I had

1808
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:32,200
heard was wrong and when I stopped talking, I said, no, I'm more convinced, Mary,

1809
01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:36,680
you people are sitting on something and you said, well, we've wasted our time. But there's nothing

1810
01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:44,040
else. That's right. What do you think are the prospects that I have made, and what can be done

1811
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:50,120
to improve and enlarge the organization? Well, that's quite a question, and it's a very

1812
01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:59,320
good, a great answer. When I went in there a year ago, January, I was told that within a very short

1813
01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:04,680
time, there would be successful funds of money coming into a law to fill it up. We'd have an

1814
01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:09,800
editor and a tour assistant and a promotion man and public relations, and the other, all which

1815
01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:19,640
was badly needed. The sum was estimated at around $50,000. On the basis of this, I announced the

1816
01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:25,480
Micabagazine and sent letters to all people who read my books, and we sent out quite a number of

1817
01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:30,920
them, and we had acceptance rates, and then after the acceptance rate, the people who were going

1818
01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:37,640
to donate $1,000 in amounts to $5,000 in peace, in most cases, each one to get away to the other.

1819
01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:45,000
So as a result, here at Micabagazine, our commitment to publishing a magazine, which we put out and

1820
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:49,560
said it's just to borrow what we took from them. So, it's quite a sweat and shed. I think it was

1821
01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:55,080
right. It was just about that and then a little bit more, because some of us shared desperation,

1822
01:01:55,080 --> 01:02:02,120
but we did with the magazine out, and it was written to be as new and as much new material

1823
01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:08,600
as possible. We all donated to Fullerton, and we have done our best to keep going. It's by the

1824
01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:13,880
fact we have such a small staff down there. I personally donated my time to Slab, QX,

1825
01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:20,040
and I don't know how long I keep on doing that, but Micab, overnight, could become a very terrific

1826
01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:27,480
success if it doesn't have a large membership. It says all it needs is a large membership,

1827
01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:32,360
and a few people, of course, who have been able to have actually signed in donations

1828
01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:37,880
besides their membership. But I have a very close buddy relationship. Do you have any? I don't know

1829
01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:44,680
about major fighting, about how many members it would be necessary to have in order to

1830
01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:52,360
have a successful organization? Well, of course, it would be very wonderful if we had 10,000 members,

1831
01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:59,000
but we could do much less than that. If we had, in addition, we have now, if we had

1832
01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:06,920
25,000 more members, the 3,000 more, our problems would be taken care of, because I would immediately

1833
01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:11,720
get a hold of an editor. In fact, I put my eyes on my friend John Newbury over here, he used to be on

1834
01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:17,080
two magazines. But someone who knows the subject, it could really take over. So I've been trying to be

1835
01:03:17,080 --> 01:03:24,120
director of the publication plan and not doing a good job in any of it. Would you clarify,

1836
01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:32,680
now, perhaps more of us as a mother organization? No, we were afraid that there would be some jealousy

1837
01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:40,920
on the part of existing organizations. And of course, I think they felt, too, that we were trying

1838
01:03:40,920 --> 01:03:46,200
to take them over. And so we got along very well with most of them, not so well with them. I don't

1839
01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:51,320
care too much for our policy, it's a little bit of a policy, for instance. But we are learning

1840
01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:55,880
much from women, so most of all, we get information from them, and we'll be glad to cooperate even

1841
01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:59,240
more with them, for a better future. And now you must have one thing, I'm going to talk to this,

1842
01:03:59,880 --> 01:04:05,560
on a cooperation. We offered the Air Force cooperation, too. Back in July, we offered them an

1843
01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:12,040
eight point, I think it's an eight point plan. And someone said, which way is gentlemen, what,

1844
01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:16,680
would we consider negative evidence that was possible? We said to the Air Force,

1845
01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:23,480
you claim that you have explained all but 3% of the sightings. If you will ever have a 97%

1846
01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:28,920
of the cases, such as the security involved and they're all explained, there's no reason why you

1847
01:04:28,920 --> 01:04:33,640
should lose them. We will turn them over to our advisors and body governors. If we agree, you

1848
01:04:33,640 --> 01:04:38,920
may fully explain them. We will let the Air Force certainly have done everything they claim,

1849
01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:44,920
they have explained that 97%. We will write back about, say, list this a bit, but I'll go home.

1850
01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:51,480
Air Force said, we don't want any part of you. So we've not released anything. They said an

1851
01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:59,160
official letter saying, we just need our help. I have one more question, major. On the unfurl

1852
01:04:59,160 --> 01:05:06,520
circle theater, I recall a statistical breakdown as to the number of unexplained and insufficient

1853
01:05:06,520 --> 01:05:12,360
information. I don't recall the breakdown. It was 1.9 or something on unexplained and

1854
01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:19,240
12.5 insufficient. In your opinion, should the 12.5 insufficient, that is the number,

1855
01:05:19,240 --> 01:05:26,360
be classified as insufficient information or unexplained? I would have to see each case to

1856
01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:31,880
answer that, but I'll tell you one thing. That 1.9 is very misleading because that is what they

1857
01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:38,200
call the current situation. Now, until November 15th last year, they were advertising that they

1858
01:05:38,200 --> 01:05:46,520
explained all the 3%. Then they just said suddenly to 1.9. But what they don't let the public realize

1859
01:05:46,520 --> 01:05:51,880
is that they have a base backlog of unexplained cases. It goes back into the special report 14.

1860
01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:57,080
Then you have the table right in the back that shows 19.5% of this group unexplained, which is

1861
01:05:57,080 --> 01:06:06,520
about 650. The total today is well over 700, but 750 unexplained cases, all more than 12% of the total.

1862
01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:11,560
Colin Haley? I know that's a quite thin public metric, you know.

1863
01:06:13,080 --> 01:06:20,520
It was dated May 6th, 1955. A friend of mine, who was higher from the Pentagon, told me at that time,

1864
01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:25,560
he said, they're going to let that go just in time to mark off the new book coming out in May.

1865
01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:30,280
I thought that's very interesting, and Haley Holt will appreciate that because the book's

1866
01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:35,960
in the middle of about one third written, and it won't be out for much. And this called me up later,

1867
01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:40,200
and he said, they just signed out to books about coming out, and they slapped it secretly,

1868
01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:44,680
but they're going to hold it. But they held it until October. And this time,

1869
01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:50,440
Les Princefield, who put out a cry for, made a mistake and said in his book that I was coming out in

1870
01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:56,200
November, with the first of the conspiracy, and I asked him, the private blockhead from Robert

1871
01:06:56,200 --> 01:07:02,440
White, got orders from top sides, let it go. So let it go, and the first man around the Pentagon,

1872
01:07:02,440 --> 01:07:07,960
and at any time, can get the things, and say, what's it all about? That's the time of the day.

1873
01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:14,600
He said, wait, here it is, explain all the good things around the story, and all the other things.

1874
01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:19,080
And then I looked at it until after December, but that time things were sort of cruel. And also,

1875
01:07:19,080 --> 01:07:22,680
the Ruebler's book was coming out, but he said they were not the book of it at the same time.

1876
01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:28,920
And that is a misleading document, I think, as there has been put out. I don't see the lines of

1877
01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:34,440
the people, but it is a complete blunder on this paper that they've ever been published,

1878
01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:37,960
and I've ever seen. This is a deliberate deception.

1879
01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:45,480
Magic, see how, that doesn't be air for it, why make it? Well, they know very well, as our intention

1880
01:07:45,800 --> 01:07:52,360
was to get everything out in the open, and to try to get the answers made available to the press.

1881
01:07:54,280 --> 01:07:59,560
One suggestion we had was to send all those huge press conferences, and bring out everything,

1882
01:07:59,560 --> 01:08:05,000
and we would be over there giving our side and asking questions to the little staff out in the open,

1883
01:08:05,000 --> 01:08:10,280
and that's one thing they will never agree to. So there were too many questions that were just not,

1884
01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:16,680
they couldn't answer. And that's also why we want this sort of investigation, couldn't answer,

1885
01:08:16,680 --> 01:08:23,320
or they don't want to answer. Oh, they can answer, so most of them, but I do think there are some

1886
01:08:23,320 --> 01:08:28,040
things that they don't understand even yet about these. I'm not even sure they know the bodies,

1887
01:08:28,040 --> 01:08:33,400
but I'm sure they know that these things operate in cycles, and they probably know the method

1888
01:08:33,400 --> 01:08:38,840
of propulsion. I think they do have a good idea of the types of things involved, or not sure of that.

1889
01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:43,400
And they know very well, as they're real, as they're from some other part of the universe.

1890
01:08:44,280 --> 01:08:47,800
Could you repeat that again a little bit? No, they're real. Now, who knows? They're

1891
01:08:47,800 --> 01:08:54,120
unfortunately. The Air Force knows what the objects are real, and the objects are the intelligence

1892
01:08:54,120 --> 01:08:59,560
control of the, from some other part of the universe. Either also from the outside.

1893
01:09:00,360 --> 01:09:05,080
How much top state is that? Did they in 1953, when they were, after they were, had as a

1894
01:09:05,080 --> 01:09:12,120
information, a real kind of done? No, he didn't say it that way. What he said was that there was a

1895
01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:19,800
there was a secret report, which has been held up, and I found out which one it was. I played

1896
01:09:19,800 --> 01:09:26,200
it all, that was a 4-nil report, and then the, but the 1948 report was the big one. That was the one

1897
01:09:26,200 --> 01:09:33,480
where TIC declared these things were in a planetary spaceship. And even though all the Air Force doesn't

1898
01:09:33,480 --> 01:09:39,960
accept it, that was the top brain of that time in intelligence. Thank you very, very much,

1899
01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:44,280
your major keyhole. I certainly appreciate it, and I know I let Ms. Dill

1900
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to have the opportunity of hearing your opinions on this subject, and I sincerely hope that

1901
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when and if you do come back to New York, and if you can spare the time that you will join us again.